SPEAKER_01: 0:33

Hey guys, welcome to the Unengaged Podcast with Kaylee and Cody. We're here in the studio. Yep. We are ready to get real and raw, as always. Yep. But we were just kind of... We were having a conversation about therapy, you guys. And so I think we just kind of want to see where this episode goes and just kind of talk about therapy a little bit.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00

Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, guys, I think this episode might even be... just a little bit different than what you usually hear from us I mean literally like I we were just having a pretty like very private conversation like best friend talking to best friend thing and I was a little bit more closed off than I wanted to be like you know talking about these certain things but honestly it's like I'm sure somebody probably needs to hear it too you know and more

SPEAKER_01: 1:27

than just somebody like so many people so many people there's like this negative stigma or I don't even think there is a negative stigma anymore to be honest with you I think it's just something that maybe exists you know in our heads sometimes that there is a negative stigma about therapy going to therapy or not being so positive all the time because you know hey You know, your life isn't perfect. My life isn't perfect. None of our listeners' life is perfect. Everybody has something that they're dealing with. Everybody does.

SPEAKER_00: 1:57

And so basically what we were talking about is, you know, me specifically. You know, I've never– like I've done– I've tried therapy a couple of different times. I did couples therapy with my ex. Did it solo, you know, for a while. And honestly, to me, like– In my own experience, like, therapy's never really been– or at least conventional therapy has never really been, like, my– like, it's never really, like, rung my bell. You know what I mean? Like, it never really

SPEAKER_01: 2:27

has

SPEAKER_00: 2:27

helped you? No. Like, I don't really feel like it has. I mean, and I think– man, maybe this is just me. I don't know. Like, like what we're saying is like, I'm a talker already. Like I'm already kind of an open book, right? You are. So it's not like sitting on somebody's couch and, you know, having them, you know, peel it out of me. Like I, I don't tell anybody my shit. Like they're my free therapist. You know what I mean? And I think that I also kind of deflect a lot of that stuff with humor or like already kind of have, you know, um, I don't know, like explanations or excuses for some of the things that have gone on that might cause me to actually need to like go in and like work on some shit. And like, that's me. So it's like, I don't know. Like I was just kind of joking with Kaylee. I was like, maybe I need shock therapy or hypnosis or whatever. But it's just conventional therapy for me has never really been something that has ever really truly made a difference. You know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 3:28

Well, one, I just want to tell you that I'm proud of you because I know that for anybody, especially on a public platform like this, it's not easy to be vulnerable. In general, it's not easy to be vulnerable, even if you're sitting there just talking to one person, let alone on a podcast. So one, got to commend you for that because I've also shared some pretty vulnerable things on here in past episodes that weren't easy to do. But in all honesty, I feel like the most the strongest people and it are vulnerable it's it's a total show of strength when you can be vulnerable and be open about your shit and what you're going through about what you've been through

SPEAKER_00: 4:05

yeah

SPEAKER_01: 4:06

like and i think that's everything you just said is something that so many people can relate to you guys when you hear the truth it hits different like everything you just said it hit because why because it's true and it's It's something that we've all gone through, you guys, regardless of what you're going through. You know, it's it's just nobody's life is perfect and everyone's going through shit. Something,

SPEAKER_00: 4:34

you know, it's kind of like, have you ever seen that movie? It's probably one of the least popular of Adam Sandler's movies. It's called Funny People.

SPEAKER_01: 4:42

Oh, I actually really like that movie.

SPEAKER_00: 4:44

Yeah, so it's like that one, you know, so if you haven't seen it, guys, it's basically about him and all of his friends who are all comedians and they're all in the comedy scene and they're all funny people, you know? So, like, everybody associates that with happiness, right? Because what do you go to a comedy show for? To go and laugh and be happy and all those things. And you assume that the people that are telling the jokes are happy. Yeah, you assume that they are, you know, the happiest people in the room because they're the ones that are coming up with all this stuff. But in reality, like... It's not. Sometimes they're the most depressed and like the most like, you know, unhappy people because they're constantly being looked to for that kind of entertainment and for that happiness. And it's like, well, where do they go? Exactly. They

SPEAKER_01: 5:26

feel like people can't hold space for them when they are serious or depressed or down or going through something because people just expect them to be happy and funny all the time. It's like, is it Robin Williams? Is that the one that he died? He committed suicide, right? Yeah. Yeah, and I know that that's a really big thing. I know there's some other really famous comedians that have spoke out about that too, about depression. There's another one, the one that played the Joker also,

SPEAKER_00: 5:53

didn't he? He wasn't a comedian though. He was just like an actor. Yeah. Heath Ledger. Okay, gotcha. But yeah, I mean, you know, but still just the Joker and that character, he was like a method actor. So, you know, he really kind of was one of those people that would kind of take on the persona of their character and I think that character Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What happens when like, you know, when I need something, like who do I go to for that kind of stuff? And then same thing, like I was saying, like whenever I have tried conventional therapy, it's like, I literally, I kid you not. when I when my ex and I broke up I went into therapy because I was like I need something like immediately you know and um I remember in like my first like two sessions with this like therapist like literally at the end of it like we went through like my whole childhood went through like our you know all the different things you know how they kind of are like well why are you here kind of thing you know like that whole just kind of your whole history yeah the acclimation period and literally Like after everything that was said, she literally told me, she's like, I don't think you really need therapy. And I'm like, well, yes, I do. Like, you know, like I'm pretty sure I do.

SPEAKER_01: 7:28

And that's so judgmental because like to say someone, someone's trauma isn't, is not big enough compared to someone else's or, or whatever. Yeah. you know, that's not traumatic enough for me to need. It's like, if I'm here, I'm here for a reason.

SPEAKER_00: 7:43

It's like, well, maybe like dig a little deeper or like, maybe like ask me the right question instead of just asking me for my story. Because yeah, like I deflect a lot, you know, like I make everything into a joke. You know what I mean? Like I, that's where most of my shit comes from. Yeah. So it's like, That doesn't necessarily mean that it's any less hurtful or any less hard or anything like that. It's like, I'm just softening the blow for everybody else. You know what I mean? Like, that's really what it is half the time. But... Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 8:16

You know, unfortunately, I feel like it does take a lot of time to find the right therapist, a lot of trial and error. And very sadly, if dependent on what kind of insurance you have, this is I'm speaking from experience, you guys dependent on whether you have Medi-Cal or you have the cheaper plan or you have the good, you work for a really good company and you've got a great plan, or maybe you're financially set enough that you can self-pay that honestly being able to self-pay, um, is the best, best thing. Um, I've found that the, the best therapists actually don't take any type of health insurance. They are, uh, self-pay only, um, private, um, Yep. Like you just you just have to pay for it. And those sessions for an hour typically are like around 150 to go to somebody really, really good. And that kind of sucks, you know, and it's not fair because it's like, well, what if I can't afford to pay 150 times for four times a week? I mean, that's, you know, that might be a lot for everyone. A lot of us, you know, then it's like you're stuck with whatever options of whoever takes your insurance, unfortunately. And it does take a lot of time to find the right. But

SPEAKER_00: 9:33

that's a whole nother episode. I worked in insurance for a minute and I will tell you it is a fucking scam.

SPEAKER_01: 9:39

Yeah. And you

SPEAKER_00: 9:39

got to read the fine print, too. I know.

SPEAKER_01: 9:42

But, you know, what I was letting Cody know and something that I actually didn't know for a really long time. You guys, I've been in therapy and, you know, off and on throughout my whole life since I was like... a kid early teen teenager um something that i didn't know for a long time was that there's different types of therapy other than talk therapy and one of the therapies that's worked really well for me is called emdr um i may not be saying this exactly correctly but it's something like eye movement it's emdr yeah eye movement desensitization something something like that Rapid eye movement, desensitization, something like that nature. And basically I would describe it as like almost like a type of hypnosis. It's basically reprogramming your brain, reprogramming your memories in a sense, because with memories and trauma and things that we've been through, when we think about them and when we experience them, we do it from the emotional side of the brain. And with what Ian DR does is it activates the not the emotional side of the brain and also I wish you guys I wish I I wish I knew like I know there's a name for that side of the brain but it basically kicks in your the rational side of your brain which when you go through something really hard or traumatic it's when you think back on it it's like the emotional side of your brain basically um so basically what it is i say like it's like a hypnosis because um pretty much what it is is you work chronologically you want to start from your youngest and most traumatic memory Um, or experience that you've been through and work your way up to the most current, which can take some time. I think I was in it for like a year and then I like recently actually I started going back. But anyway, it's, um, and everyone, you guys trauma isn't necessarily like it's different for everybody. What's traumatizing trauma. to you may not be traumatizing to someone else. Maybe to you, it's something small, you know, maybe it's not physical abuse, you know, maybe it's you being yelled at as a kid. Now, every time somebody yells at you, you associate it with that feeling of, you know, not being in control, whatever. It could be something small that stands out to you, you know, but basically what it is, is, um, it's like you rate. So you rate, um, whatever it is from a scale of one to 10 of like how much it bothers you or hurts you. Let's say you're out of 10. Mind you, I'm giving you guys the cliff notes guys. I'm giving you a shortened version just to give you guys an idea of what EMDR is. So, um, you rate it. Basically she, she, She has you follow her fingers. So you literally... So you come up with an I am statement that goes... A negative I am statement that goes along with that memory. So maybe you went through a really bad breakup and it made you feel like you weren't worthy. So maybe the I am statement is I am not worthy of love. Just to use as an example. You follow her fingers. I don't know the exact... You know, for how long. It's a certain amount of seconds. And you basically... Follow the fingers and you just to yourself, not out loud, repeat, I'm not worthy of love. I'm not worthy of love. I'm not worthy of love. And you think of the memory. So you think of whatever happened. Maybe it was the day of the really bad breakup or whatever. So then it kicks in the emotional side. You're processing the memory and you, most of the time, like I would literally burst out into tears and be crying and sometimes hyperventilating depending on how intense the memory was. Wow. So basically it fast tracks you processing it. You're bringing it up to the surface, you're processing it, then you go again. Okay, you say the affirmation again. You guys, I don't know what kind of witchcraft voodoo science call it whatever you want my therapist actually says that people call her a witch but she's like it's

SPEAKER_00: 13:58

an actual thing like literally like i was like thinking about that this is the first time i've ever heard of this oh

SPEAKER_01: 14:04

Something happens that second time when you start following those fingers. It's weird. And you guys, I know that this is science-backed. This is an actual thing. There's tons of therapists out there. Your therapist might be, and you don't even know, your therapist could be certified in EMDR also. A lot of therapists are. And... And something happens that second time. Basically, you keep going through, you keep doing it until you're at a zero. And every time she does it, usually it only takes me two or three times. And basically, she told me what happens is with the eye movement, like it kicks, then it kicks in your rational brain because you have your irrational emotional brain and your rational brain. Then when you start repeating that affirmation, she'll ask you, how much do you believe that on a scale of one to ten? And you're like, whoa, I'm I don't even believe this. I'm like a five. I'm thinking clearly like I'm I know that it was all this person, their trauma, their stuff there. It's not me. I am worthy of love. Like, OK, let's go tell you're at a zero. She does it again. You repeat the affirmation. It's crazy, you guys. Then you come up with a positive affirmation to counter that one. So, I am worthy of love. You follow her fingers. So, well, you do a tapping. So, you can either... You tap either your shoulders or you can tap your knees. And you go... You don't go at the same time. You go one and the other like that. And then you close... Or no, you look at her. You... do it and then you say yeah i am i'm worthy of love how much do you believe it uh i don't really believe it i'm out of five you do it again you do it till you get to a 10 you guys something happens something magical happens in your brain you land at a 10. this also works for phobias people that have phobias of anything you guys people have phobias of clowns of spiders So it also works with phobias. And then you guys, basically after you program this with the tapping and that's how you would maintenance on your own. Anytime you don't feel worthy of love, you repeat your affirmation, close your eyes. I am worthy. You do your tapping and it kicks you right back to the session of when you rationally repro like you're the rational sides working and you've reprogrammed yourself. shortened version, you guys shortened version, but it, to me, it's like a type of hypnosis and it works. And after you, after the session, you have to rest, you guys, you have to rest. That's the main thing. You can't do it on your break, go back to work. You basically have like, your brain has like done so much work with the reprogramming that like You have to take a nap after. And even if you're not tired, you lay down and you will literally take the best nap of your life. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 16:53

Yeah. I think that that honestly, like you'll have to like give me like the name of your therapist. I was that because like I was just thinking that while you're telling me that and like I'm I've been always the person to just. kind of lead with the rational side like always you know so I think a lot of like the majorly like traumatic things that I've gone through I never did emotionally process you know because it's like I've just had to move on you know what I mean like push it down yeah it's like I've just always had to like move forward and like just be like okay well what like logistically is next you know what I mean rather than actually like sitting down and like processing emotions on stuff so I mean I think that that honestly is like something that I probably like could definitely benefit from and like something that I probably need but

SPEAKER_01: 17:43

I think honestly I think anybody no matter who you are you could benefit from it and I think Everybody needs it, honestly. I mean, because, yeah. And there's other types. I don't have a lot of experience with the other types, but I know there's so many other types, you guys. I know that I had a friend that did, it was called art therapy because she was super artistic, very artistic, drew a lot, things like that. And she did art therapy. I don't know exactly what that entails, but let's say you're a creative. And maybe you're more introverted or it's hard for you to verbalize things, but you like to draw or write things out or, you know, play music or color, you know, different things like that. Like, I know that that's one that could be also really good for kids, but not just kids. It could work for adults. There's all types of different therapy. There's like meditation therapy. I could show you, there's a website that I've used for this. It's called Psychology Today. It's almost like a Yelp for plastic surgeons. I'm thinking real self. That's another episode. It's like a Yelp for therapists. You can select all your stuff, like what insurance that you have, whether you're looking for in-person or Zoom. A lot of the people now, it's Zoom. ever since COVID. And it will tell you all the different types of therapy. It's so crazy. And once you look, I'll show you when we get off of here, the amount of different types of therapy other than talk therapy are going to blow your mind. I get what you're saying. At some point, we had done an episode kind of about how to manifest things. I mean, everything that I know about manifesting would tell me the more that you talk about something and mind you guys, yes, there is a time and a place where you're going to need to get out whatever it is that you're feeling or that you've gone through or whether you've had a bad day or trauma, like talk to somebody. Yes. I'm not, I'm not trying to like dismiss that. That is a journey that also needs to happen. But at some point I just, I don't, I get what you're saying that it's at some point you can only talk so much towards not helpful. And you're almost like, perpetuating it

SPEAKER_00: 20:03

yeah

SPEAKER_01: 20:04

in a sense

SPEAKER_00: 20:04

right it's like I mean I could talk about all the things that go on no problem you know and it's not like it's not like I'm not gonna get emotional about it I'm not gonna get you know like really anything out of it to be honest you know and it's like and at the same point it's like okay well if I'm not getting out anything out of talking about it like As my therapist, are you getting anything out of it? Like if I can talk to you about the most traumatic thing that ever happened to me with a straight face, like it's probably like you're probably going to be like, yeah, I don't know how to help you or like what kind of help you really need or, you know, like any of those things or like what how to fix that.

SPEAKER_01: 20:43

And, you know, sadly, you guys, a lot of these therapists that take certain insurances, I think that, you know, it's like. I don't get paid enough to really get deep enough. Yeah. Yeah. And that's sad. It's kind of like we come the same way with doctors. It's a different conversation. But yeah, it's unfortunate that it's kind of become that way. But there is some good ones out there. Yeah. I'll definitely give you the info for mine.

SPEAKER_00: 21:13

Please do.

SPEAKER_01: 21:14

Yeah, she's really cool. She even will tell me, like, sometimes I'll be like, hey, I just want to talk. Because she does talk therapy too. I'll be like, I just want to talk. I just want to vent. Like, something happened this weekend. Like, I just kind of feel like I need to talk. She goes, okay, well, before you start talking, I'm just letting you know. I could either cure whatever the problem is by doing EMDR or you can talk and you can vent about it. I'll leave it up to you. We can either fix it or you can talk about it.

SPEAKER_00: 21:40

Like

SPEAKER_01: 21:40

she'll kind of tell me because it's like she can't help me. Yeah. You're like, is

SPEAKER_00: 21:45

this a one day problem or is this a long term problem that you need to like fix? Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 21:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 21:53

Are we washing the car? Are we changing a tire?

UNKNOWN: 21:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 21:57

And it's crazy because I'll like start. I'll be like, well, let me just tell you what it is. I'll tell her what happened. And then she'll be like, OK, the biggest thing with therapy, too, is like. Not to sound like cliche, but it's like, it's all about how whatever happened made you feel.

SPEAKER_00: 22:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 22:13

That's what it's all about, you guys. It's like, okay, this happened, that happened. Okay, well, how did it make you feel? Well, it made me feel like whatever. It made me feel like I don't mean anything to them. It made me feel whatever it is. And it's like, okay, well, where does that stem from? Right. When was the last time or when was the first time that you can remember that you felt that way? And then it's like, okay, well... And then it's like, it causes you to, like, dig deeper. Then it's like, okay, well, let's do EMDR on it, you know? So it's pretty cool. It's actually pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00: 22:48

I'm, like, thinking about that right now. I think that's definitely something I want to try.

SPEAKER_01: 22:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 22:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 22:53

But, yeah, I think, you know, I think regardless, you guys, of what kind of therapies that you found work for you, like... There is definitely resources out there and I've just, I've just definitely learned to like lean on, lean on the resources, you know, like don't shy away from them and. Yeah. You

SPEAKER_00: 23:17

have to. I think it definitely, like, there's something to that, you know? Like, I think that as far as, like, therapy that I'm, like, willing to, like, pay for and, like, go see a doctor, like, yeah. Like, I need something like that.

SPEAKER_01: 23:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 23:28

To, like, really go back and, like, dig deep. But also, like, recently, like, I feel like, you know, even just, like, venting and talking to friends, it's, like, I'm on such a different schedule than, like, pretty much everyone in my life because of my job and all of that. The

SPEAKER_01: 23:42

bartending and stuff. Yeah. That everyone's... And a lot of us have kids and, like, our, you know, or some of our friends are married. And then so I'm sure, like, when you're the most awake, it's, like, 8 p.m. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 23:53

And,

SPEAKER_01: 23:53

like, everyone's, like, putting their kids to bed or, like, going to sleep for work the next day or getting ready for bed.

SPEAKER_00: 23:57

Yeah. No, it's, like, literally, like, I feel like at the time that everyone's ready for happy hour, it's, like, right, well, I got to clock in. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, so, I mean, it's, like, yeah, like, people come see me at work and, like, talk to me or I talk to my coworkers or whatever. But there's just some stuff. You can only go so deep. Yeah. It's, like, I'm only going to go so deep with people that. Of course. and I don't know like there's just been a lot of like shit lately that I'm just like I feel like it's very much so just like I'm on my own right now which we all go through those phases

SPEAKER_01: 24:28

what's some of the shit that you feel comfortable sharing

SPEAKER_00: 24:31

Um, you know, I don't know. I feel like right now, I obviously like have been really like off of my routine, which really sucks, you know, so I feel like, just, you know, certain ways like about like, you know, just the progress that I had made, like, you know, working out and eating right and everything and feeling like I kind of You know, we kind of talked about this a little bit. You know, I know you've got your goals and stuff that you're going for right now. And I feel like

SPEAKER_01: 25:00

I'm just... I'm not perfect either. Yeah. I totally major dropped the ball this past week and then I only had lost a pound even though, you know, so

SPEAKER_00: 25:08

I... Yeah. So it's like when you like have like this goal that you're chasing and you see the progress for so long and then all of a sudden you take like... a week or two off and you're like, oh, there goes a month of progress, you know? Yeah. And you're like, OK, well, that really fucking sucks. Like I was feeling really like good about myself, feeling like my best self and all of those things. And I'm like, now I don't, you know, and just like little things like that. And like, honestly, like being behind the bar, like really like it's taxing. It's taxing.

UNKNOWN: 25:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 25:41

Shout out to all you bartenders out there. Seriously, I've never bartended, but since my best friend here has been bartending now for a while, I mean, I have got to see up close the amount of energy that it takes from you. Oh, my gosh. And just the hours, the sleep deprivation, the difference in schedule, working nights, the people that you have to interact with, the energy that you unknowingly are absorbing and taking on from other people that are a lot of the times outnumbing because of their carrying bad shit. Oh, no.

SPEAKER_00: 26:25

You guys, like, I'll be honest, like, We were talking about this earlier, where literally in the last 14 days... Okay. I had probably like a solid like week and a half where I legit like was carrying some sort of like dark energy. Yeah. That I picked up somewhere and like literally like shout out like to a really, really close family friend, basically like my aunt, like lighting candles for me and like doing different things. I did like an egg cleanse, like, you know, did all the different things just, and it's definitely subsided from now, but there was like a week or two Where like I was like unsalvageable for a minute, you know, and like it was just like one thing after another. Well,

SPEAKER_01: 27:13

it's a real thing. Bars, bars are a really, bars are a really big place where things like that happen. They just, they breed in those places and they can transfer. And it's, you know, when you're drinking alcohol and like, I've been there once again, not judging, but I'm just, when you're, and that's, I know, because I've been in places like that. I've done that. But when you're drinking alcohol and everything is, your inhibitions are lowered everything's lowered you're not as like protected because you're not really you you're like a different version of you like you're not in an altered state yeah you're in an altered state and I I truly do believe you know not to get too crazy on here but it's like Yeah, lower level beings can attach to you. It's a real thing. Ask, you know, anybody who's super spiritual and knows about this stuff. I mean, there's... I

SPEAKER_00: 28:11

feel like I definitely got a little bit of evil eye given to me. Yeah, that too, you

SPEAKER_01: 28:17

know.

SPEAKER_00: 28:17

I'm like looking around like, which one of you bitches gave this to me? I'm like, back to sender. No,

SPEAKER_01: 28:26

it's a real thing. I mean, even just... People's bad energy. I mean, think about it, you guys. When someone's, like, the person that's always negative, that's always talking negatively, that's always, you know, it's like, don't they exhaust you? They call them, like, energy vampires. They literally drain your energy. Yeah, like, it's like they're literally, like, just draining you,

SPEAKER_00: 28:50

you know? Sucking the life out of you. Yeah. Yeah, no, literally, like, that's, like, been, like, there are some people, like... that are around pretty frequently there where I'm just like, oh, like, you know, and like shout out to like my coworkers and like my team. Like if there's somebody there that I don't want to deal with or don't want to like talk to them or something like that, like we all do that for each other, you know, like we all kind of take turns. Yeah. And like, I have a really good tap in. Yeah. It's like, all right, you're, you're in buddy. Go ahead. You know? And it's just lately it's been a lot and you know, It's also kind of a lot, too, because I feel like being back there and being in such like a high volume kind of place, like, you know, you're one of the three people that is dealing out what everybody wants. You know what I mean? So it's like most of the time I can't tell, like, if half of these people are just wanting my attention because I make a really good drink or if they're like. I only want your espresso martinis because, you know, they're like into me. Right. I'm like, which one is it? Yeah. I'm like, which one is it? Like slide in my DMs. I'm single. What's up? Yeah. You know, and it's like, God, like. I saw this TikTok today actually where it was like, you know, as bartenders, it's like who, you know, who needs to date when you have limited time available on your schedule and you can just clock in and be on seven bad dates at the same time. Oh my gosh. And I've never seen something more true. Oh man. I could see how it would be like that. That's exactly how it is because you're constantly trying to keep up this conversation, trying to keep your coworkers happy, trying to keep that server over there happy, these three customers. Then you have that one over there that has a tab open with you but is sitting at a table because you make their drink the right way and only you. So they want to make sure they tip you instead of the server that's doing absolutely nothing. And

SPEAKER_01: 30:42

that's the thing. When I go out for a cocktail, I want it to be made right. Especially if I'm indulging, especially if I've been dieting, or especially if, you know, I'm only allowing myself two cocktails tonight because I've been cutting back. I want them to be good fucking cocktails. You guys, tip your bartenders well. Like...

SPEAKER_00: 31:00

Yeah. Moral of the story, y'all. If you tip me well, I remember. And most likely, I remember your drink order before I remember your name. So it'll come out good. 20% means 100% effort. How about that?

SPEAKER_01: 31:15

That could be a meme also.

SPEAKER_00: 31:16

Yeah. Seriously. That should be like a t-shirt for bartenders. Yeah. I just ordered one, actually. I'm super excited about it. On the back, it says, world's okayest bartender.

SPEAKER_01: 31:27

Oh, you have to wear that at work. I'm going to. Yeah. And then your hair is like short enough that like they'll be able to read it yeah your hair won't be in the way yeah I love that

SPEAKER_00: 31:36

did I tell you I think I'm gonna get a perm

SPEAKER_01: 31:38

no yeah oh just so

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you add some more like wave to your hair yeah because my hair is like stick straight

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yeah I think that would be that's just a little perms are making a comeback So many people come into my work all the time asking if I do perms, and I'm like, no. Yeah, I wish you did. So I didn't have to train

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somebody else. I got a recommendation for you. You do? Good, yeah. Okay. Can that person do it this week? We'll see. We'll check her availability.

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Well,

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is there anything else? I think that's all I got for this week.

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Okay. Well, you guys, regardless of what y'all are dealing with right now, We dealing with shit too. You are not alone. And just know there are, um, there's options available to you.

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Wait, wait, wait. One more thing. Yeah. We totally forgot to talk about our event coming up. oh yeah sorry see this is what happens when we don't actually plan and we just hit record if you guys are listening thus far on May 17th at Overflow Taproom we are having a women in business networking event Gilroy

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California if you are a young woman in business come out have a drink there's going to be a Mosa Bar all the things and come join us we're going to be networking and just we're going to be there also interviewing

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yeah we're gonna be doing doing little mini podcasts yeah like a live episode so if you guys are you know wanting to get on or just wanting to chit chat with us whatever we will be there we're gonna have the the hot mics on yes and we're just so excited to have this event and we're super excited that Overflow is helping us out yeah

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we're all acting

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like it's our event yeah it's our event no sorry Chris it's our event no but yeah we're super excited about it super excited to get all of these beautiful talented successful ladies together and see what we can get cooking

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yes let's collab who wants to come on the podcast we want to start having guests on soon so that'll be another thing for you guys to look forward to but I hope you guys enjoyed this very vulnerable conversation between Cody and I and we'll see you in next week's episode alright thanks guys see you later